diff --git a/doc/todo/windows_git-annex_service/comment_13_f1d254fe85b0e5cbc7edf9096af4f942._comment b/doc/todo/windows_git-annex_service/comment_13_f1d254fe85b0e5cbc7edf9096af4f942._comment
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+[[!comment format=mdwn
+ username="http://joeyh.name/"
+ ip="108.236.230.124"
+ subject="comment 13"
+ date="2014-06-17T16:52:55Z"
+ content="""
+I have messed with the windows ACLs some yesterday, but I don't know how or if it's possible to set ACLs on a directory, such that everything created inside it will be writable by two different users. Certainly this is doable on POSIX; if it's doable on Windows, I'll revisit services.
+
+----
+
+
+For now, it seems that a better option may be to not run git-annex as a service, but use various dos-window hiding technologies.
+
+<http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21031171/how-to-run-a-command-on-the-background-on-windows/21031281#21031281>
+
+I have successfully gotten this to work using nircmd. make a git-annex-webapp.bat, containing:
+
+<pre>
+title GitAnnex
+nircmd.exe win hide ititle \"GitAnnex\"
+git annex webapp
+</pre>
+
+This works, although the DOS box flashes onscreen for maybe 1/10th of a second before nircmd hides it. A git-annex-assistant.bat could run git-annex assistant --autostart, and would be suitable to be setup to run on startup.
+
+(It seems that it's possible to write a VBScript or C# program that sets up a hidden WScript.Shell and runs a command in it. That might avoid the window flash. However, it seems hard to get VBScript to run, and I have not investigated C#.)
+"""]]
diff --git a/doc/todo/windows_git-annex_service/comment_14_7d5fdac0084c4742967879f5f0f9fccf._comment b/doc/todo/windows_git-annex_service/comment_14_7d5fdac0084c4742967879f5f0f9fccf._comment
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+[[!comment format=mdwn
+ username="http://joeyh.name/"
+ ip="108.236.230.124"
+ subject="comment 14"
+ date="2014-06-17T16:56:32Z"
+ content="""
+Note that nircmd is not free software; but can be distributed free of charge, provided all the files in the zip are included and unmodified. Sucks, but it's windows..
+"""]]
diff --git a/doc/todo/windows_git-annex_service/comment_15_8f10491f8c0a151284e6d81a83eab212._comment b/doc/todo/windows_git-annex_service/comment_15_8f10491f8c0a151284e6d81a83eab212._comment
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+[[!comment format=mdwn
+ username="http://joeyh.name/"
+ ip="108.236.230.124"
+ subject="comment 15"
+ date="2014-06-17T17:10:28Z"
+ content="""
+<http://www.ntwind.com/software/hstart.html> is another option. 
+
+How to run VB script:
+
+<http://stackoverflow.com/questions/289498/running-batch-file-in-background-when-windows-boots-up>
+"""]]
diff --git a/doc/todo/windows_git-annex_service/comment_16_51800fd83cd979b021eabdd4c44cfd61._comment b/doc/todo/windows_git-annex_service/comment_16_51800fd83cd979b021eabdd4c44cfd61._comment
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+[[!comment format=mdwn
+ username="http://joeyh.name/"
+ ip="108.236.230.124"
+ subject="comment 16"
+ date="2014-06-17T17:18:34Z"
+ content="""
+Using wscript to run a file containing this will start the webapp w/o any console flicker:
+
+<pre>
+Set objshell=CreateObject(\"Wscript.Shell\")
+objShell.Run(\"git-annex webapp\"), 0, False
+</pre>
+"""]]