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+[[!comment format=mdwn
+ username="jtang"
+ ip="79.97.135.214"
+ subject="comment 10"
+ date="2012-07-29T10:49:05Z"
+ content="""
+This is looking good, no more segfaulting.
+"""]]
diff --git a/doc/bugs/lsof__47__committer_thread_loops_occassionally.mdwn b/doc/bugs/lsof__47__committer_thread_loops_occassionally.mdwn
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+I've noticed this to occur occassionally 
+
+<pre>
+laplace:atest jtang$ ls
+1@  2@	3@  4@	5@  readme.txt@
+laplace:atest jtang$ git annex watch -d --foreground
+watch . [2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] read: git ["--git-dir=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git","--work-tree=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest","show-ref","git-annex"] 
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] read: git ["--git-dir=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git","--work-tree=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest","show-ref","--hash","refs/heads/git-annex"] 
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] read: git ["--git-dir=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git","--work-tree=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest","log","refs/heads/git-annex..f85faa60e73efabc2e92f837b19c3918d3ab030f","--oneline","-n1"] 
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] chat: git ["--git-dir=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git","--work-tree=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest","cat-file","--batch"] 
+(scanning...) [2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] Assistant: all threads started
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] Merger: watching /Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git/refs/heads/synced
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] TransferWatcher: watching for transfers
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] read: git ["--git-dir=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git","--work-tree=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest","symbolic-ref","HEAD"] 
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] call: git ["--git-dir=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git","--work-tree=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest","add","--update"] 
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] Merger: merging changes into Just refs/heads/master
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] call: git ["--git-dir=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git","--work-tree=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest","merge","--no-edit","refs/heads/synced/master"] 
+(started...) [2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] Watcher: watching .
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] WebApp: running on port 60042
+Already up-to-date.
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] Watcher: add symlink ./1
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] chat: git ["--git-dir=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git","--work-tree=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest","cat-file","--batch"] 
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] Watcher: add symlink ./2
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] Watcher: add symlink ./3
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] Watcher: add symlink ./4
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] Watcher: add symlink ./5
+[2012-07-29 11:49:26 IST] Watcher: add symlink ./readme.txt
+[2012-07-29 11:49:27 IST] Committer: committing 6 changes
+(Recording state in git...)
+[2012-07-29 11:49:27 IST] feed: git ["--git-dir=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git","--work-tree=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest","update-index","-z","--index-info"] 
+[2012-07-29 11:49:27 IST] call: git ["--git-dir=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git","--work-tree=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest","commit","--allow-empty-message","-m","","--allow-empty","--quiet"] 
+[2012-07-29 11:49:28 IST] read: git ["--git-dir=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git","--work-tree=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest","symbolic-ref","HEAD"] 
+[2012-07-29 11:49:28 IST] Pusher: pushing to []
+[2012-07-29 11:49:28 IST] call: git ["--git-dir=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git","--work-tree=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest","branch","-f","synced/master"] 
+[2012-07-29 11:49:28 IST] read: git ["--git-dir=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git","--work-tree=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest","symbolic-ref","HEAD"] 
+[2012-07-29 11:49:28 IST] Merger: merging changes into Just refs/heads/master
+[2012-07-29 11:49:28 IST] call: git ["--git-dir=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git","--work-tree=/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest","merge","--no-edit","refs/heads/synced/master"] 
+Already up-to-date.
+[2012-07-29 11:49:43 IST] Watcher: file added ./.gitignore
+[2012-07-29 11:49:43 IST] read: lsof ["-F0can","+d","/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git/annex/tmp/"] 
+[2012-07-29 11:49:44 IST] Committer: delaying commit of 0 changes
+[2012-07-29 11:49:45 IST] read: lsof ["-F0can","+d","/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git/annex/tmp/"] 
+[2012-07-29 11:49:46 IST] Committer: delaying commit of 0 changes
+[2012-07-29 11:49:47 IST] read: lsof ["-F0can","+d","/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git/annex/tmp/"] 
+[2012-07-29 11:49:48 IST] Committer: delaying commit of 0 changes
+[2012-07-29 11:49:49 IST] read: lsof ["-F0can","+d","/Users/jtang/sandbox/atest/.git/annex/tmp/"] 
+</pre>
+
+I ran " git annex watch -d --foreground" to watch what was going one, and just created a .gitignore file and the the commiter/lsof thread just loops over and over.... I only noticed as my laptop battery had drained at somepoint when git-annex was running in the background.
diff --git a/doc/bugs/lsof__47__committer_thread_loops_occassionally/comment_1_f8d1720aa26c719609720acf0772606e._comment b/doc/bugs/lsof__47__committer_thread_loops_occassionally/comment_1_f8d1720aa26c719609720acf0772606e._comment
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+[[!comment format=mdwn
+ username="http://joeyh.name/"
+ ip="4.153.8.133"
+ subject="probably a kqueue specific problem..."
+ date="2012-07-29T18:10:12Z"
+ content="""
+I don't think this would eat your battery badly; it's looping for sure, but with a hardcoded 1 second delay I put in to guard against it eating all CPU.
+
+I tried to fix this in commit c4023f785834bc237e5fcdb69e275bbae10dd40b, but I sort of doubt I did.
+I made one more commit that will at least tell us what file it is trying to check over and over with lsof.
+"""]]